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Cheating? No cheating.

September 25, 2011 12:59 am
Edited on: September 25, 2011 1:01 am

Has everyone now seen the fourth round of the Mayweather – Ortiz fight? If you’ve seen the fight, you’ve probably got your own opinion of what went down at the end. Many are upset that the fight ended controversially. But the controversy is more because with questions not because a foul was committed.
Many have said that Ortiz was sucker punched because he was hit on the break or that he was looking at the referee when he got punched. Ortiz wasn’t hit on the break. Look at the fight. I’m not a Mayweather fan anymore today than I was yesterday. Even though his crude and arrogant actions push me away from the person, I watched the fight and I think that I may have noticed what many have missed. Before the second hug from Ortiz in ring center, the referee waved them together to fight. After Ortiz hugged Mayweather the second time and backed off, Mayweather hit him with a left hook while he was looking at the referee. A little less than a second after the hook, Mayweather hit him with a right cross and Ortiz went down. Cheating? No cheating.
I believe that Mayweather was on his way to stopping Ortiz within the next four rounds, so why did he take Ortiz down in a way that would leave the public with questions? He was beating Ortiz handily and was taking hardly any punishment in return. Why not just wait and get a cleaner finish?
Why was Ortiz still looking at the referee after the first left hook that hit him? Let’s say for the sake of argument that Ortiz didn’t remember the referee waving them back to fight before the second hug. He got in the face by a left hook, why didn’t he put his hands up, even as a reflex? Ortiz wasn’t so dazed by the punch that he was knocked down or even have his knees buckled, but he didn’t draw up in defense, not even as a reflex. He just kept looking at the referee, the right cross didn’t come until almost a second later. I could say that he didn’t have time if it was a quick 1-2 combination, but it wasn’t. Cheating? No cheating.
Although I have no way of telling what was going on in Ortiz’ mind, it looks like he may have been giving up. The second Holyfield – Tyson fight comes to mind after watching this fight. Tyson had given Holyfield his best and still couldn’t take the advantage, as a matter of fact, Holyfield was winning. So Tyson resorted to biting Holyfield not once but twice and ended up being disqualified. Tyson said that is was in retaliation for Holyfield’s head butts. I believe that he realized that he couldn’t win and instead of losing with a real excuse to make, he chose to be disqualified then he could always say “what if”. Ortiz was losing to Mayweather, repeatedly being beaten to the punch and not being able to mount an effective offense in return. He may’ve felt that he couldn’t win so he tried to escape. So, he head butted Mayweather, so hard that he left his feet in the effort to make contact. Then after the point was deducted and they were waved back in to fight he hugged Mayweather again. Nothing illegal or wrong about that but after the left hook he just looked at the referee, didn’t attempt to cover up, not even as a reflex action. Then the right cross lands, followed by the ten count. Now Ortiz wasn’t beaten, he was hurt by a punch that he didn’t see.
This fight ends controversially, because it leaves questions of “why”, not because of cheating. The only ones being cheated are the public, being forced to watch Mayweather and Pacquiao fight everyone but each other.



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ph02139
SinceJan 8, 2008

Cheating? No cheating.

January 20, 2012 6:43 pm
This fight ends controversially, because it leaves questions of “why”, not because of cheating. The only ones being cheated are the public, being forced to watch Mayweather and Pacquiao fight everyone but each other.
This is the problem with boxing today, there are no fights that are scheduled to keep the publics interest.  MMA and the other blood sports are surpassing/have surpassed boxing and boxing may well be on the way out.  Gone are the days of Ali vs Fraser, Leonard vs Hagler, there have been no real stars of the sport to come to the forefront.  Even though he was insane at least Tyson kept the sport on the back page of the newspapers...sometimes the front...yikes.
My opinion for boxing to get back into the limelight is to have more of the Olympic style format. Tournaments, not as many rounds, I believe that the American audience is burnt out watching 12 rounds of boxing, the pure science has been put in a test tube and been quarantined.
But then again I have not watched boxing in quite some time and will wait for the Olypics to see some action.
 
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